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alisaie "verCatchTheseHands" leveilleur ([personal profile] veraltwin) wrote2021-10-24 04:48 pm
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pc; the truth of evidence



Week 3, Sunday, post-execution
winebar: (23)

[personal profile] winebar 2021-10-26 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
[HM.]

That is true. It is strange someone would leave a footprint when they should know from previous trials we will check such things. While it is entirely possible it was simply a matter of planted evidence to frame someone, given they could have easily walked outside to make use of Mr Turner's shoe, this is also possible.

I should say, I did already intend to share what we have discussed here with Lieutenant Kitsuragi, but now even moreso, as he was present at the scene. I do not know if it would be possible to discern such a thing, but I will ask him if he could possibly hazard a guess as to whether some of the marks might have different in som way from the others.
greatdeduction: (the speckled band)

[personal profile] greatdeduction 2021-10-26 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
We made a crucial error with the message. It was not written by Mr. Rex's daemon. I have discussed this with the Lieutenant.

You see. Mr. Rex's body was found along with his sword. The sword itself had wood dust and grain on the tip, indicating that Mr. Rex carved the message himself, which further indicates Mr. Rex was within the storage room, carved the message, and perished there along with his daemon due to the smoke inhalation from the burning hookah in the back. This is proven by the dust found from his daemon. Then, following his death, someone pulled his body out of the storage room and knocked over the other hookah.

So this now brings a question to mind - why leave Miss Susato in the storage room, then? How did she not perish, while he did? But these are the facts I have arrived at so far.
booksleeves: (Yongle Dadian)

[personal profile] booksleeves 2021-10-26 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
[Oh! She's looking at him with so much admiration! Sad.]

Mr. Sholmes! Your deductions are incredible as always!
greatdeduction: (the valley of fear)

[personal profile] greatdeduction 2021-10-26 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[He gives a twirl of the hand, and a bow.]

As always, I am here to untangle the whole affair with the power of deductive reasoning. I will see this matter through to the end.
booksleeves: (Dictionary of Roman Antiquities)

[personal profile] booksleeves 2021-10-26 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I have the utmost certainty that you will.

[But she seems quite happy to see him in action anyway.]
winebar: (68)

[personal profile] winebar 2021-10-26 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
[Well these deductions are certainly clearly spot on. However;]

Somehow in bringing us closer to understanding the true facts of the case you have given us more questions instead of answers.
greatdeduction: (silver blaze)

[personal profile] greatdeduction 2021-10-26 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, it is a conundrum.

[And he frowns.]

What I am starting to worry is...recall the case of how Mr. Suigetsu was discovered? Wasn't there evidence placed there that framed him, by someone else?

Could this whole affair have been tampered with by a third party, outside of our murderer and victims?
winebar: (20)

[personal profile] winebar 2021-10-26 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Was there? I had thought we simply mixed evidence from the different cases together.

[I, Caitie, have an appointment in 20 mins and havent had time to look over the docs yet. That said;]

What this does mean, though, is that Alisaie's theory is all the more plausible, since the killer would have been in the room to see the note, and could have easily altered it. And they would have had access to Mr Salazar's weapon, so if they added marks to what he wrote, they would not look any different.
Edited (i have had four hours of sleep and I can't read) 2021-10-26 17:50 (UTC)
booksleeves: (Essay on Political Tactics)

[personal profile] booksleeves 2021-10-26 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
He certainly thought so, Mr. Sholmes, but I do not know whether he was right. The boots could have belonged to a separate killer.

Still, it is an interesting thought. For what reason would a third party have had reason to tamper with the scene?
greatdeduction: (the speckled band)

[personal profile] greatdeduction 2021-10-26 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The theory I had was that the third party, who can "see things during the murder" located Mr. Rex's body in the storage room, and attempted to make it easier for us by pulling him out so he could be found. This could acknowledge why you were left behind in the storage room, as they were unaware of the fact that you were there in the back.

But this is only a theory. Otherwise, we get stuck in the mud of that question of "why move the body after he died"? To hide the method of death, perhaps?
Edited 2021-10-26 18:03 (UTC)
booksleeves: (Konjaku Monogatarishu)

[personal profile] booksleeves 2021-10-26 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I see.

[Hmm. She frowns a little - the idea that this could be true troubles her somewhat.]

Does it really make it easier for us?
greatdeduction: (the crooked man)

[personal profile] greatdeduction 2021-10-26 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahaha.

[A bitter sort of laugh.]

If that was the case, no, it does not. I would think it more likely for it to be the murderer, in that case. Though why they would leave you behind...
booksleeves: (Mill's Methods of Induction)

[personal profile] booksleeves 2021-10-26 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.

[She touches her cheek, thoughtful.]

I don't think we've as yet found an answer to that question. There must be some reason, mustn't there?
greatdeduction: (the norwood builder)

[personal profile] greatdeduction 2021-10-26 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't recall ever seeing Mr. Rex following that moment where he called out to you, no? The last time you saw him was outside?
booksleeves: (Enquire Within Upon Everything)

[personal profile] booksleeves 2021-10-26 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as I can say, that's correct. Of course, I may not remember everything.